How do you like your West Ham Strikers?

claret and blues west ham gavGeoff Hurst, Tony Cottee, Frankie Mac, Dean Ashton, David Cross. We’ve certainly had a few great strikers down the years.

There’s lots of different styles and attributes to a centre forward. Nippy, tricky and diminutive. Strong and powerful. Good in the air. Loves the through ball to run on to. Great with their back to goal. Brilliant at taking the first time shot. Superb volleyer. Powerful shot on them. Excellent holding the ball up and laying off. Whatever it is that floats your boat we all know what we love to see in a front man.

I’m not going to name names but I’ve just watched quite a bit of footage of a player who, by the looks of things, does much of the above very well and has a better than one in two strike rate in one of the top 4 leagues in Europe. This level of player doesn’t come cheap but, someone like him would certainly fit the bill for us IMO.

The said player reminds me a lot of Dean Ashton but, is possibly, slightly more mobile. Personally I found it a massive blow when ‘Deano’ shattered his foot during training on England duty. It was one of the biggest tragedies to befall our club in recent memory. I reckon he’d have gone on to establish himself as one of our greatest ever. In essence ‘we was robbed’ of our elusive regular 20 goal a season man by ‘that challenge’ by Sean Wright Philips and haven’t come close to replacing him ever since.

I love Andy Carroll to bits and he would, if fit for one full season, be up there for me but therein lies the problem. He’s not played a full season since his signing. Sadly don’t believe he ever will.

So what is it that you like to see and what do you think West Ham need most in a goal-scoring number 9?

  • Tom

    I find it rather embarrassing that in the last seven years Sullivan has signed 34 strikers …. that stat alone is a clear indictment of what is wrong with recruitment at our club … what compounds that is in the last two transfer windows out of a £40m net spend £10m of that went on agents … considering £20m was spent on Ayew speaks volumes of inept at every level … need I say anymore as to why A club under Gold and Sullivan finds itself at the top of the bottom third getting be on minimum investment … freebies and loans do not bring quality

    • Guesty

      Tom, we have the 6th highest average net spend over the past 5 years in the prem, the spend on agents fees is pro-rata that. Our problem is one of quality. Last season we got it right whereas this season we didn’t. Let’s hope they get in right this summer eh?

    • Goatygav

      I’m dreaming dreams – I’m scheming schemes.

    • razorwine

      Their gamblers mate dont want to try for quality known would rather spend on lots of punts hoping for another lanzini who was really the only one that came off. Law of averages i think is the term. Quality like payet fernandes and your seeing arthur settling in now were all paid up cash the rest although they flopped with the freebies nord turned out to be fair the right thing for us as can send them back without looking for buyers the problem is like you say less gambling and the quality thats known brought in would be far better if achievable. Imo

  • Guesty

    I think the “said player” is Lionel Messi and I claim my £5.

    Gav I’d settle for a Cottee and Frankie Mac, I’d settle for Dean Ashton, who I agree was a huge loss and to think he’d only just be coming to the end of his career. Isn’t that a sobering thought? I’d settle for a David Cross or a Pop Robson as I loved watching them play. Ian Wright in his prime? Sir Geoff Hurst, it goes on, it just serves to remind me how long we have been without. But we can bemoan that all day but those players would be snapped up by the big clubs now wouldn’t they? Does anyone really think Deano would still be with us now?

    • Goatygav

      Nah – someone, apparently, within our price bracket. It’s Anthony Modeste of FC Koln.

      • AdeludedCoker

        I’ve just seen that Modeste failed to find the net in nine appearances for Blackburn in 2012…

        The Standard recently quoted the ex-director of football at Besiktas who hired Slaven saying Mario Mandzukic will be playing for us next season. A decent, relatively injury-free striker who’d do a good job for us, in my view.

        What I feel we really need, however, is speed and the exuberance of youth, or at least relative youth. I’m certainly not against Defoe coming back, but Batshuayi is the striker I’d really like to see in a West Ham shirt.

        • Philtheiron

          Hi mate,
          Yeah I’m not totally convinced about modeste either. Rubbish whilst on loan at Blackburn but matured and on fire at colone in the top flight in Germany (25+goals already this season).

          One thing I do agree with is that we desperately need an injection of pace throughout the team but especially in the forward areas.

          Batshuayi on loan would be a belter of a deal. As long as it came with an option to buy of course

          • AdeludedCoker

            It’s a shame that we missed out on Batshuayi for the sake of £2m last summer, Phil. Particularly when you consider the money we subsequently spent on the likes Zaza, Calleri, Tore, Feghouli, Snodgrass, Nordtveit… Save for Snodgrass they were all loans or frees, but a lot of money undoubtedly went on signing on fees, wages and loan fees.

            If you believe the story, the board had agreed a £31m fee for Batshuayi before Chelsea came in with £33!

            With you on an option to buy being a part of any loan deal for Batshuayi. I don’t think we ever get the best out of players that are with us purely on a short term loan.

          • Guesty

            We didn’t miss out by £2M Ade we missed out because he wanted to join Chelsea simple as.

          • AdeludedCoker

            Quite possibly, Guesty.

            Though I do wonder why Chelsea didn’t pay Marseille the £31m they’d previously accepted from us if that was the case.

            Anyway, it would be good if we could clear out the dead wood this summer and offer to take him off Chelsea’s hands. He knows by now that at least he’ll get more game time with us.

          • Goatygav

            He’s not going to break in to that Chelsea side while Conte’s in charge. He must realise that and, surely, doesn’t just want to keep the bench warm.

          • Philtheiron

            Hi mate,
            If he is just happy to take the money then hell mind him!

            For I mind a similar French striker who was all the rage and funnily enough knocked us back if I remember correctly?

            He got his “dream”💰Move to chelski, took the money and rotted on the bench.

            After a while he realised he needed to play and went out on loan(s) and was never heard of again!

            That player? Luc remy!

          • AdeludedCoker

            I also think a player like Batshuayi with good speed and movement would bring the best out of Lanzini, who I think has struggled to find a final ball a bit this season, particularly when he’s been playing centrally behind Carroll.

          • razorwine

            Actually was the bigger money ade chelsea offered in wages and fee our cheapskates wouldnt match it and the fee for his agent was better for him personally so a no brainer. Thats the reason we need a new board that like chelseas board put their money where thier mouth is.

        • razorwine

          Me too ade defoe and mitchy all day long mate. Mario good player and modeste no thanks german league is not that clever hence bayern always winning the rest not the same standard as the other leagues around the world. Nord being a top player in german league has proved how poor most players are other than the ones playing for bayern. Hopefully chelsea get another top striker maybe lukaku back again and release mitchy. Bog in goal for us too would be great too from them imo.

  • Philtheiron

    I must admit there is nothing quite like the ball hitting the back of the net to set your pulse racing!

    But I think striker/centre forward is the ideal example to show just how much the game has changed.

    No longer is the striker the focal point of the team like a Deano or a shearer who would have been expected to lead the line and score the goals.

    Today the striker is expected to play a more intergrated part in the team and offensive line. Subsequently the job of goalscoring is expected to be shared more evenly amongst the forwards as well.

    • razorwine

      Very true mate, good post phil. Cant believe how originally i disagreed with some of your posts a long time ago admittedly either its my age or i am changing my thoughts. Nah must be age eh!

      • Philtheiron

        Thanks mate, means a lot pal.

        • Guesty

          Razor are you ok mate? Has someone hijacked Razors account?

    • Mihai

      completely agree re the role of the striker in modern day footy… his contribution to the game should be much more then just goals. Sure that is important but not the sole criteria and we have to break away from that sort of mentality.

    • Goatygav

      It’s a great point you make Phi. In the cases of AC & Ibrahimovic you could go on to argue that they make a major contribution defensively from opposition corners and free kicks.

      • Philtheiron

        Hi mate,
        For so called “big men” Carroll and lbrahimovic have surprisingly good all round games.

        However I can’t help getting the feeling that they are examples of a dying bread and although they provide an excellent option in their own right

        they I believe, lack that flexibility now required playing in the modern forward line.

        Although I feel this problem is not entirely of their own making.

        For there is this lazy assumption that all some player have to do is is hit long aimless balls in the general direction and the big men will do the rest.

        Not only does this do them a disservice(they are better than that) but it cheats the team and more importantly the fans.

        We should ban such “football” from the London stadium. We’d be a better team for it.

        • Goatygav

          Hear hear.

  • razorwine

    The idea of the greatest player i have seen other than mooro best pele in modern times messi coming here mate is obviously not going to happen gav. The guy is a football equivalent of the clever magic dynamo brings and your getting at this geezer modeste i guess. Played in thepremier already but flopped atBlackburn like zaza at our place. Now if lukaku was the choice unfortunately also a no chance like lionel then im excited mate. I think realistically mate mitchy and defoe would be great with carrol sold please and with our youth coming through in stages and ayew we have enough for that position next season. Adding zab at right back and ogg and reid back with the two reeces as back up we only need a left back and a attacking midfielder to complete our team pushing for a top six spot. Seriously only think chelsea totts two manchesters and when sorted out their problems arsenal are better than us with our team sorted out eventually and playing the sort of football we produced last season. Imo

    • Goatygav

      Despite Modeste’s flop at Blackburn I’d love to see him at the club. Clinical – one of the hottest prospects in Europe at the moment.

      Don’t disagree that Michy Batshuayi would be awsome too.

      • Mihai

        i dont get the fascination with Bats personally. I mean, Maiga scored in France… that means very little when it come to the Prem. If he was that good he would have overtaken Costa in the pecking order at Chelsea no?! As far as leagues go i believe the bundesliga is still of higher quality then ligue 1 so in that sense Modeste would certainly have the edge. I wouldnt say no to Mandzukic either and think its a definite possiblity especially if Slav stays…

        • Goatygav

          Credible points there Mihai. Modeste has a better strike rate history than Bashuayi in a tougher league playing in a, relatively, lower ranked team than the Marseille side that Bats played in last season.

          Listening to Andy Jacobs on Talksport on Tuesday he couldn’t quite believe that Batshuayi was overlooked from the bench on Saturday, with Costa on his worst ever scoreless run playing terrible football, with Costa bringing on Loftus-Cheek for Zouma as the third substitution. Does make you wonder – perhaps we dodged the £30M+ bullet on him.

          I still think he’d be an excellent signing for us but there’s risk with any player at any price.

      • Guesty

        That’s a good call Gav, yeah he would get my vote. You know what? Not getting a top top striker this summer just isn’t an option is it? I know the board get a hard time but this summer our marque striker has to arrive.

  • Guesty

    Sat in an airport departure lounge waiting for a delayed plane so thought I’d write you a new discussion article that you can cut and paste if you please Gav. It will fill a gap till Head writes the match report following our magnificent 3-1 victory at the OS.

    Not GoatGav’s Points #1
    1. So if they did give Super Slav the old tin-tack who would you want to take over? Whats your vote, Slav to stay or Slav to go?
    2. The club have spent the 6th highest in the Premiership NETT on average since G&S arrived. But still we moan, how much should they budget in the summer NETT to make a difference in your view? It was £47M last term I believe.
    3. I know it’s about quality not quantity so how would you spend this budget? Who goes, who arrives? Name 3 that you want or the positions you want strengthened?
    4. Do you really want S&G to sell up? I mean really? Doesn’t a Vincent Tann or The Glaciers keep you awake at night? Do you really just want them to go about their business differently perhaps?
    5. What would you change about the London Stadium. Accept we aren’t going back, what is the main thing you would change if you could?
    6. I read about people falling out of love with West Ham and of giving up their ST (and support?) and following local football. Would you really ever give up on West Ham?
    7. People have written off all the 2016/17 transfer buys! They are all rubbish apparently. Name 3 of those 2016/17 buys that will surprise us all and come good in 2017/18.
    8. Five matches left, 15 points on the table. Toffees, Spuds, Stoke, Liverpool and Burnley. How many points will we gain and what position will we end up?

    I have my answers but I’ll hold them back for now.

    • Goatygav

      It’s on as it’s own post Guesty 🙂 .