West Ham vs Blackpool; another Wembley ticket debacle

We have been allocated “in excess of 35000 tickets” proclaimed the official site. Whoopee!

This immediately gave rise to several questions:

  1. How many tickets have we really been allocated? 35001, 40000+ or somewhere inbetween?
  2. Given Blackpool’s fan base and ground capacity, it always seemed likely that they would struggle to sell anywhere near that figure. Today, their own site is claiming around 23,000 sales – and that with a very generous sale’s technique, contrasting with the strict 1 ticket per season ticket holder or academy member policy at West Ham. What happens to their left over allocation?
  3. Even if you accept that it is only fair and equitable that each club receives the same allocation, what happens to the other 20,000 tickets that equate to the capacity at Wembley? (Apparently this fixture is not subject to the usual ‘club Wembley’ and corporate allocation).

Then came the enticement of a ticket with a £200 down payment on next season’s season ticket for new applicants. No idea which league we’ll be in but we’ll guarantee you a seat at Wembley. Crafty beggars!

Next, they pushed back the date for a long awaited ‘general sale’ (which we were forewarned might never actually arise) by 24 hours, leaving anxious fans to sweat on the never, never promise and, of course, increasingly likely to crack and spunk up the £200 plus the ticket cost. Not that I would, for even a second, accuse the club of emotional blackmail.

The twitter rumours have been in overdrive. I am guilty of tweeting on more than one occasion that I fully expect a further 5000 tickets to magically appear before Thursday morning. Maybe they will, maybe not. The official figure, released today, claims that just 500 will be available from 9am on Tuesday morning to the general sale punter.

Anyway you look at it, the maths don’t add up. Our 35,000 plus let’s say 25,000 sold in the seaside town. There are plenty of tickets around of course on the net. Livefootballtickets.com will sell you one if you have a spare £340+. Mind you, at that price, you may as well line the club’s pockets and take the £200 down for a season ticket! Plenty have, or so they claim.

Ah well, whatever happens, I reckon we’ll outnumber the seasiders by a good 3:2 on Saturday, turning Wembley into a home fixture.

Oh bugger, we’ve not been that good at home!

  • Pete

    they do like a bit of spin on it now. roll up roll up.

  • ClaretNBlues

    Good post HM mate, here’s my little piece to add.

    On Friday morning, I received my email telling me that if I paid a £200 deposit on next season’s season ticket I would be eligible to reserve my ticket for the final along with the current season ticket holders. 
    Now, as I was thinking of renewing this season anyway (I had to surrender mine as my wife was temporarily disabled) I thought ‘why not?’ – so I called to pay my £200.
    It took me 5 or 6 attempts to actually get through and when I did get through, I was on hold for ONE HOUR and FIFTY MINUTES before just being cut off! A call which cost me £12 as it was an 0871 number. £12 for absolutely nothing!
    I was fuming as you know HM. I emailed the club, Gold directly and tweeted the club and Gold, all of which were just ignored.

    Then to hear that the Academy Member sales dates had been extended was the final straw. It was bang out of order.
    Even though I am not currently a ST holder I have been to around 3/4 of the home games this season. There were members getting hold of tickets that haven’t been to ANY games and then given an extra day to do so.

    At 16:309(ish) today I called SeeTickets and said I was a ST holder and asked if there was ant tickets available, the woman I spoke to refused to tell me how many but said there were plenty!

    So what happens to them? Apparently all that will go on sale tomorrow morning is the 500 we have managed to claw back from Blackpool! 

    I dearly want to be at Wembley to support my beautiful West Ham, so much so that I was close to purchasing a neutral corporate ticket last night for £266 but there is now a big part of me that doesn’t want to give a penny to these crafty so and so’s after the underhand and dirty way they have treated us loyal fans in the past week.

    I am sorry to say that all the respect I have managed to build up for Gold (not so much Sullivan and Brady) over the past few months has now dwindled away to nothing. I have nothing but contempt for the lot of them now.

    • Bert99

      Everyone else got a ticket – you clearly just like to moan. use the internet and you get your ticket in minutes.

      • ClaretNBlues

        Read the article you idiot! using the internet wasn’t an option because you had to call the 0871 number to renew! 

  • Jbrand

    Its a business not a charity. Loyal season ticket holders got their tickets ok. Members got their tickets ok. Anyone else isn’t a regular fan and deserve to pay over the odds for a ticket. Stop moaning.

    The £200 down payment is an excellent idea by the club to raise some money when we’re in debt. Its sending out a clear message – you’re a gloryhunter so you pay…. your choice sunshine.

    • ClaretNBlues

      So, you are saying I’m not a regular fan although I spent over £400 on tickets this season??? I couldn’t renew my season ticket as my wife was temporarily disabled! You complete waste of space! 

      I have never banned a member from this site but you’re gone ‘sunshine’ – people like you make me sick! 

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron spencer crisp

    Hi,

     I would like to reinforce what the previous poster said, I buy all my tickets through hospitality over the phone’, as I can only get to about 6 home games a year, a season ticket is a waste, having said that I have spent £100+ per ticket this way, but because I have purchased these through hospitality I do not qualify to buy from the general sale, I also tweeted Gold and added pictures of my tickets with my name on them, and I was also ignored, totally gutted and very annoyed,

    • ClaretNBlues

      Waste of time mate, Gold (or his minions as it usually is on there) will only reply when it benefits them! Although ask him where you can buy his book and he’ll send you a carrier pigeon! 

      I can fully understand ST holder getting first shout and that’s how it should be! But members are able to buy tickets even if they have never been to a game.

      • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron spencer crisp

        Well you live and learn, maybe next year i’ll buy £32 or £40 tickets and get the extra privileges that go with spending less, I thought I was doing the club right by doing my bit too add to the coffers, I’ll just watch it down the pub with the lads, 

        great site by the way, I always pop on to read your views

        COYI 

        • ClaretNBlues

           You won’t need it next year mate ;)I think I will probably end up
          in the pub too! Probably in the Wembley area though, if I fail with a
          ticket, I’d like to at least feel the atmosphere, if you know what I
          mean.Thanks for the comments on the site also! To be fair, it’s Headmasters superb posts that make it what it is :)

          I don’t make a habit of banning people either mate, but for someone
          to insinuate that I’m not a fan because I chose to care for my wife (as
          above) isn’t something I care to read or care for others to! :)

          Cheers again mate

  • ………..

    Another fan bitching and moaning because they didn’t want to stump up £30 for a membership, almost all of which you get back in benefits……..Still I guess you’ll just delete this.

    • ClaretNBlues

      It wasn’t a case of not wanting to stump up anything you twat! It was a case of expecting the owners to do the right thing! I was about to ‘stump up’ £200 as a deposit for next season! Until I was cut off after 1hr 50mins! 
      So you would have just said @ClaretNBlues:disqus 
      oh deary me’ And redialled?

      If you can’t be brave enough to put a name, then don’t bother replying. Unless of course you can’t spell your name? Then that would fully explain the reply you made.

      YAWN!

    • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron spencer crisp

      it’s not about ‘stumping up £30′, I’ve spent £700 this year on going to West Ham, as I said previous all my tickets were purchased over the phone through hospitality,

       On a slightly different note, Gold said these other 500 tickets were from Blackpool returning them, if this is the case why are they located in the West stand, West Ham’s half of the stadium according to the football league website and seeticket.com,  curious 

      • Finchhammers

        thats right i got mine tuesday morning and im behind the goal in the west stand?????

    • http://www.facebook.com/sandra.pounder Sandra Pounder

      A Blackpool fan here totally agreeing with ClaretNBlues think he’s done his bit n deserved to get a ticket but admire his stand against you  

  • ClaretNBlues

    You won’t need it next year mate ;)
    I think I will probably end up in the pub too! Probably in the Wembley area though, if I fail with a ticket, I’d like to at least feel the atmosphere, if you know what I mean.
    Thanks for the comments on the site also! To be fair, it’s Headmasters superb posts that make it what it is :)

    I don’t make a habit of banning people either mate, but for someone to insinuate that I’m not a fan because I chose to care for my wife (as above) isn’t something I care to read or care for others to! :)

    Cheers again mate

  • Nick O Las

    Forgive me for adding my comment to this forum as I am a seasider, however both clubs seem to suffer from the greed, incompetence and lack of respect for their fans. I spent hours on the phone at a premium rate trying to secure my tickets for the Birmingham matches, having turned up at Bloomfield road and being told 2 hours before you will get to the ticket office. If Blackpool don’t sell their allocation it’s because they have basically given a false impression to supporters who want to buy tickets and they have given up trying. Even now the people of Blackpool can’t buy tickets without being a season ticket holder or having purchased from the club in the last 2 years.  

    • ClaretNBlues

      No need to forgive you Nick, you’re very welcome Nick. I have to agree with what you say. Although one thing that does strike me as odd is that if our owners are to be believed the club gets very little revenue from the ticket sales of the final. It seems that the goal of West Ham’s owners is to sell more season tickets for next season. A marketing ploy they may believe is very clever but a lot of fans have seen through it and aren’t very happy with.

      I didn’t realise you boys had that restriction in place, I was under the impression your tickets were available on general sale too all on day one.

      Either way, wherever we are watching it, it should be a great game and may the best team win.
      Actually I’m glad we’re playing you lot as if we fail to win promotion, I’d want it to go to Blackpool over Cardiff or Brum!

      Game on! :)
      COYI

      • Nick O Las

        COYI Thanks for the kind response, not sure about the financial rewards for the clubs involved in the play off finals, but I am still struggling to understand why Blackpool have placed at this stage restrictions on their ticket allocation as the population of Blackpool is around 160,000.

        Birmingham were our bogey team even though West Ham looked in a different league to us in the championship matches. From my point of view I am more than happy to wish you all the best if things don’t turn out our way on the 19th. The West Ham fans away at Bloomfield road were respectable which is more than I can say for many of the other visiting supporters.

        So it comes down to 90 minutes on the 19th either way a good team will win.

        Look out for us wife and I wll be in tangerine!!!

        Best Nick O Las

  • Chrisuk28

    you’ll be blowing bubbles out of your arses along with your bubble headed manager come next saturday

    • AussieGraham

      Why do you bother ?Your very jealous obviously of the tradition and Only World Cup Winning Club namely West Ham United,you can have 19 League titles but you will never get another club that produced what Moore,Hurst and Peters achieved,great site boys shame about the voyeurs that can’t get over themselves!

    • ClaretNBlues

      Wow! Thank you so much for that deep, meaningful reply! Quite the wordsmith, aren’t you? I wish I was as clever and pretty as you princess!

  • Middxile

      It costs a West Ham fan £60 to get to Wembley, inluding transport (before you have a drink). It will cost a Blackpool supporter round £200 if he stays for the weekend. West Ham Supporters can just go home to their beds.
      It isn’t a level playing field. Unemployment is high in the North West at the moment. Some lads are having to make very hard decisions.

  • Middxile

      As a Blackpool supporter (and an OAP), I thought you might find it interesting to view a perspective from the other end, prior to Saturday.
      Financial Analysts pegged West Ham’s debt at £110 m prior to the start of the season (Your Icelandic legacy). They also suggested that a further £40m would be needed to fund  promotion, which S&G have funded. They have bet the farm !
      West Ham HAVE to win on Saturday. If they were playing Barcelona, rather than Blackpool, the equation would be the same. Failure, and West Ham’s owners are staring into the abyss. I read West Ham web-sites, and have concluded that no Hammers fans want to leave the Boleyn. Most supporters can see that selling it off is a means of raising cash in the short term, but the consequences later may be far worse in the long run . I hope you stay where you are; it’s your spiritual home.
      Where S&G have pumped money into their Club, Blackpool’s owners have been equally active in siphoning cash out. From the last PL windfall, they decided to repay all the money owed to them (How much??), and simpley trousered  a cool £11m . That action was bitterly resented by many Blackpool supporters, and may account for at least 5000 not coming to Wembley.
      And so to the game. These one off matches are a lottery, and the team that turns up and plays the game rather than the occasion will win it. Fate, however, takes little cogniscence of neccessity, and desperate as West Ham will be to tuck in to the PL riches, they will have earn it.
      Blackpool’s players are on a £5m bonus to win, to be shared between them. S&G would gladly pay them double that in advance to roll over, but it will come down in the end to who plays the best under pressure.
      West Ham are in a rich vein of form (one loss in 20 ?), but Blackpool have rather slipped in under the radar, unbeaten in nine games, including SIX clean sheets, with 5 conceded, and a healthy 16 scored. This will be no gimmee!
      Success and Failure are twin Brothers. One has to learn to live with them both.
    Either could turn up on Saturday……….at either end.

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron spencer crisp

    sorry for repeating this but it got caught up in the replies, any thoughts on this?

    On a slightly different note, Gold said these other 500 tickets were from Blackpool returning them, if this is the case why are they located in the West stand, West Ham’s half of the stadium according to the football league website and seeticket.com,  curious!!

    • Middxile

        Soorry to keep posting on your forum, but I can answer that one.
      A Block which was to be left empty for segregation purposes, will now be offered to West Ham. The next block along will be used for segregation.
       Blackpool anticipate finishing at about 32000.  Further Blocks may/may not be available, as some tickets may have already been sold in these areas. The shortfall in sales are as a result of points in my earlier posts.

      • Finchhammers

        alright smarty pants segregation wasnt behind the goal was it? thats where my ticket is….

  • Darylbiddulph

    Desperate to take my 13yr son………anyone got 2 tickets spare?….long shot i know

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron spencer crisp

    the ticket i got was right goals behind the west end, albeit in the sky, nonetheless deffo at the west ham end and not near blackpool at all, block 548, 
    http://www.seetickets.com/Venue/SeatingPlan/637871

  • Martin Blow

    I bought 3 tickets this morning and they are behind the goal in the west ham end – no way they ate returned from Blackpool FC  

    • Darylbiddulph

      You know of any going spare my friend??

      • Finchhammers

        blackpool end thats where a lot of my friends are …..

    • Martin Blow

      Sorry I had a queue of people wanting them. I was lucky as got hold of 2 additioanl client refs for tickets bought this season.  

      • Martin Blow

        Should have also added – that I have heard a rumour from a few people that there may be tickets on general sale at UP on Sat AM? There are apparently confirmed 10,000 unsold from Blackpool and DG is saying on Twitter another 500 may come our way. You’d need a client I guess.      

    • Finchhammers

      same here!

  • Wykehamtrev

    See Tickets have had some more appear from somewhere. I bought one 10 minutes ago!

  • Brianmayhew607

    they should allow westham at least 45ooo tickets. ime academy member and i had problems getting through on the phone.so i done it on line and got tickets for me and my partner.i tried getting tickets for the loer tier cos my parner struggles to go up steps they were all sold out .so were in the upper tier. hope ther is lifts at wembley

  • jack

    anyone know wheres the best place to get tickets?

  • Andy

    Can’t get tickets, bugger! Will be going to Wembley to sing and have a few but sadly will watch in the pub!

    • Martin Blow

      I bet you’ll b able to pick one up at Wembley – might have to pay a bit over the odds but I reckon you’ll defo get in

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron Spencer
    • Headmaster

      Yes, Spencer but cheaper than livefootballtickets.com 
      It is truly disappointing to see the plentiful availability on these sorts of sites.

  • jack

    Do you know any other sites Spencer looked on that one trying to find cheapest one possible. is it true that an extra 5000 seats will be given to west ham fans?

    • Headmaster

      I’m guilty of raising expectations on this score. I still wouldn’t rule it out but I have to say I am becoming less confident as the hours pass, Jack

      • jack

        oh okay then

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron Spencer

    to be honest I think everyone is going to be trying to cream as much money from these tickets as possible, even this one on ebay is/will be a rip
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/West-Ham-official-wembley-final-ticket-/120914968800?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c271800e0#ht_322wt_171 

  • jack

    that ones not too bad, keep an eye open and keep sending links please! much appreciated

    • Carlwestham

      Can’t you just go in the blackpool end?

  • jack

    would, but it would be abit awkward chanting west ham songs there?

  • Rik3477

    HI All, Ist tIme here I also had a bad experiance getting tickets this mornIng. I have been a ST and Member for 20+ years and my Daughter has been a ST and member for 7 years, Phone lInes jammed seetickets could not recognised her client Ref number trIed about 20 tImes onlIne and only got 1 tIcket has I so wanted to take my little gIrl for the experIance of a fInal so I have a tIcket up for grabs £150.

    COYI

    Rikky

    • AussieGraham

      That,s brilliant value!

    • jack

      hey im interested what’s your contact details?

    • ClaretNBlues

      Sorry, this isn’t a bring and buy sale. If you want to sell your ticket for s ridiculous price, I suggest you do it elsewhere.

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron Spencer

    sorry to keep bumping the site with this but there is another ticket on ebay, the description seems a bit confused, he says it’s a buyitnow but it’s in auction, and don’t bid but there are 11 bids, but anyway here’s the link,

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/west-ham-play-off-final-ticket-/150817129280?pt=UK_SportsMemorabilia_Football_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item231d66c340#ht_500wt_1156 

  • North Shore Seasider

    We (Blackpool) sold 23k tickets to season ticket holders, the rest of the tickets went on general sale on Monday. We are expecting to take 38k like last time v Cardiff. 

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron Spencer

    that is a lot of season ticket holders, are clubs allowed to sell more season tickets that the ground can hold?, that’s a 6’250 over sell if no away supporters are let in

    • North Shore Seasider

      Season ticket holders were allowed to purchase, i think, up to 5 tickets each. Blackpool have 10,500 season ticket holders.

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron Spencer

    Ah, ok that explains that then, as of this morning, blackpoolfc.co.uk said

    “27,624 tickets have currently been sold to Blackpool fans for the npower Championship play-off final on Saturday. 
    All Blackpool fans that have a previous purchase history on the club’s ticketing database can now buy tickets.

    Supporters purchasing via Ticketmaster will have until lunchtime today to buy tickets, with the remaining blocks returning to the ticket office for sale thereafter.”

    • North Shore Seasider

      That is correct. I’ve had to wait until today to get my tickets (4 tickets) because I’m not a season ticket holder.

  • http://twitter.com/Life_Of_Iron Spencer

    well I expect the ground to be packed and a superb atmosphere, hopefully it’ll be a great game of football, and whatever the outcome both sets of fans can walk away proud of their sides performance on the day at least,

    • North Shore Seasider

      Well said.

  • Robwilson1965

    Blackpool fans were getting 5 tickets per person so Everyman and his dog should get one yet we struggle to get them for our more loyal fans. I got one on my season ticket without any hope of another one. Is this fair ?

    • Danthejag

      It’s fair that both teams, regardless of who they are, should get equal allocation of tickets is it not?

  • Eintracht Frankfurt

    I’ll try my luck outside Wembley on saturday. If I can’t get a ticket for a reasonable price I watch it in a pub too. But it’s very sad that Blackpool is only selling tickets to people with a history in their database in the last two years. Being a neutral football fan from Frankfurt/Germany I would just love to see the match as I’m a big play-off-fan who saw over 20 finals over the years. Cheers

  • jack

    looks like i’ll be joining the fans outside of the stadium!

  • North Shore Seasider

    It looks like we’ll be taking 32-34k fans to Wembley now. People have been turned away from the ticket office because they don’t have previous purchase history on the clubs ticketing database. Even if you can prove you live in Blackpool/Fylde coast, they will not sell you a ticket without previous purchase history.. Madness!

    • Buffo

      yes, that’s madness. and lost money too as all those tickets will be unsold. i guess they are very scared that too many West Ham fans get in their end…

      • North Shore Seasider

        True. Hope you get a ticket, Eintracht.

        • Buffo

          cheers, mate

  • MB

    POSS TICKET UPDATE: My mate called Blackpool FC earlier and spoke to the ticket office. They said as we suspected that have almost 10,000 unsold tickets. They said there is a meeting taking place later today to agree what to do with them? I can only see one realistic option, which is returt to the FA who will have to decide whether to somehow sell them at v short notice to WHU fans (at the ground sat AM?) or write them offf – which would be ridicolous and a travesty. Another mate also went to UPark this AM and they currently have no tickets and are at this stage not aware of anymore coming. I am lucky to have my ticket but i I didn’t I would be tempted to get down there tomorrow afternoon, afterall for the 2006 FA Cup final, tickets were available at the ground about 5pm on the Fri before the game, my mates got a couple, and FA cup final tickets are much more scarce. Good luck.          

  • Carlwestham

    I’ve heard that Blackpool have sold tickets in all their allocated blocks. So I don’t see how that could give all the tickets back without moving their fans?

  • Martin Blow

    Now says on the Blackpool website that they have extended the selling deadline to 11.00am tomorrow morning. Cant see any tickets coming back now. Pathetic ticketing policy if ends up with a major final with thousands of empty seats, but plenty of demand, who can’t access it. The FA should make Blackpool pay for any empty seats.    

    • North Shore Seasider

      Why should Blackpool pay for any unsold tickets? It was the FA who demanded that BFC only sell tickets to season ticket holders and fans who are on the BFC database. 

  • Martin Blow

    If that is the case then fair enough but I’d b surprised if that was. The FA are desperate to get Wembley filled as it cost so much to build. Blackpool FC must have known that there would be c10,000 tickets unsold 2-3 days ago so I don’t understand why a substantial number weren’t returned to the FA then, or to WHU as we apparenty got 500 returned from BFC on Tues. That should really have been 5000. We have sold 41,000 to people who have at least bought a ticket for a home league game this season, and there are thousands still ticketless.

    WHU fans could not choose seats when ordering, we were allocated them, so I can only assume by that, that blocks at being sold at a time so I’d also b surprised if segregation was a major issue. And anyway, I know dozens of WHU fans who have got ticket via Blackpool, not that I think segregation will be a major issue in this game as I expect it to be good natured, which ever way it goes, unlike if it was against scummy Birmingham. Their “fans” are a disgrace. Not seen anything like it for years when we went up for the Carling Cup semi last year.

    Anyway, I am not having a dig at Blackpool fans. I hope it’s a great day and the best team (in claret and blue) win! It’s just all v frustrating with so many hammers still wanting tickets and there are 1000s unsold. Let’s c what happens later but it would not surprise me to see a significant number of tickets  being on sale tomorrow AM at UP or Wem ber ley!

  • Martin Blow

    Gold on Sky says he’s very disappointed as Blackpool have at least 7,000 tickets unsold. (the Blackpool website says 29,000 sold). He says those tickets could have been returned to us and we would have sold the lot.     

  • North Shore Seasider

    hope you go down (just words) but meant

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